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One thing that a lot of people like to say is, oh, don't buy the 400 because you'll outgrow it and want the 650. And I just don't like that term outgrow. There's lots of people, if you think about a Mazda Miata type thing, lots of people that like that feeling of a lightweight car. So think of the lotus cars. Lotus are known for lightweight and handling compared to something like a Ferrari, which is all out power and handling. So there's a lot of, most people will not outgrow a 400, but they may want more speed. There's guys that can race these around the track faster than you and I, uh, they're not outgrowing this bike. It's a great bike to learn sports riding on, especially because of its lightweight. This one, although not at all heavy
Uh, some other manufacturers, you'll still find that when you see that bike up close, it just looks like a baby bike. It looks like a toy. This looks like a full size motorcycle. But there are some size differences to make this compact. And I'll show you when I hop on the bike here. So I'm about six feet tall, people always wanna know my nc, I think it's 32 or so inches. I'm very much flatfooted with my knees bent here. Lemme just take a look at my watch. I can see yeah, so you can see me knees bent there, very flatfooted in the standard riding position here I am just a slight lean forward, which on a street sport bike is what you want. There's not a lot of weight on my wrists and certainly as soon as you start moving here you have got some wind protection on some of your body here.
It's non, not an adjustable windshield. Uh, you could certainly uh, buy an accessory longer one if you wanted to. But with this windshield way it is and that slight lean forward, you're gonna have some wind holding some weight off those handlebars. Anyways, it's fairly comfortable, fairly compact position. One thing you're gonna know is here is with my size 11 feet, if I put my feet too far back, I'm actually on the heat shield here. Now if I put them where they're supposed to go, they're off the heat shield, but I'm very close to that heat shield. So there's that compact kind of feel here in the riding position and you definitely feel the lighter weight. Let's take a look at the 650 now do the exact same shot. So we'll go back to back here, you can see the size and then we'll start talking about what that size leads to as far as differences, engine brakes, suspension, uh, and other pieces.
Alright, so I don't know if I line it up on the exact same tile, but let's just jump right on this one as well. First of all, you're gonna have a little bit more width to the handlebars, not a whole lot and I'm still relatively low to the ground, still bent in the knee. There seems to be maybe a slight bit more reach here, but the bike does feel just generally a little roomier, maybe just a tiny bit wider as well. The tank, the view of it is certainly wider and while you feel the weight pushing it around, uh, like walking beside it as you move it around, you don't feel a whole lot of weight on the bike. It's very comfortable here. Uh, same sort of thing. And again, you have that little bit forward lean, the wind's gonna help hold you up on a sport bike like this and you've got a really good position on both these bikes.
One thing you'll notice is it doesn't matter where my heel goes, there is no exhaust that comes up here, it's underneath there. We're gonna talk about that technical difference as well. But yeah, overall similar riding position, but you do feel like this is a little bit larger bike. Um, not so much in the, in the, just like I said, seating position here, but as you move it around a little bit, this one's still very, very nimble and maneuverable. But that one is a whole different category of lightweight, nimble, and maneuverable. Now let's talk about some of the technical differences that the size brings to these bikes. So the first thing we should talk about is brakes. This one here has a large caliper AVS brakes. This one has a a available AVS brakes as well. So again, available avs, same thing from the angle you're looking at, they look nearly identical.
The difference is this one being lighter weight and having less speeds. It doesn't need as much breaking capability and they throw a single disc on the right side of this bike. Over on the six 50 you've got a dual disc up close and personal. You can see there's a little bit different style to the drilled rotors. There's sort of a more aggressive drilled rotor here. There's larger cas Uh, the disc actually I think might be a hair larger on this, but they're very similar. Um, but again, the dual disks on this one, you'll also notice there's a slight tire size difference. This one's a wider tire than this one here. Uh, and to me it has much more aggressive tread. In other words, more rubber sort of less uh, tread than this one here. So both sporting tires, both sporting looks but definitely a difference in the brakes.
Alright, so this is a bit of a busy looking shot. We're gonna walk through a couple things that you see in this shot. We're on the 400 still. So first thing I wanna point out is your foot pegs here, they are still sporting style foot pegs. You can have this uh, little feeler there on the bottom. So if you lean over far enough that your foot peg is gonna touch the ground, it's not your foot or your foot peg, it's this little feeler right there. But they are steel foot pegs. So you've got the uh, metal foot peg there and you've got a suspension shock in there, which is tucked in nicely to see if I can get the angle right. There we go. So you can see it right in there. It is tucked in well forward and it's sort of up and down.
There's a more modern way to do that which you'll see on the 650 but still again centralized mass move forward about as far as it can go and uh, you know, good uh, just a good system there. There is some adjustability in there as well. We can talk about that a little bit later. Uh, maybe actually in a future video we'll do suspension talk and then you have the exhaust that comes up here, which is beside your rear wheel. So suspension, foot pegs, exhaust, all of those are gonna be different on the 650. Let's take a look at that right now on the 650. So taking a look at the 650. Now you can see a couple differences here. So you've got your foot peg here, which is now rubber pad which helps damp the vibrations and it's a nice sort of soft rubber.
So deals with vibrations, which is kind of nice. Same sort of feeler on the bottom of that uh, pedal there. So you can lean way over. You'll notice the exhaust is down low on these 650 bikes. They have the ability to sort of finish it off right there underneath the bike not bringing out here you can see the nice swing arm there as well. And also the suspension, instead of going up and down, it's this horizontal backlink rear suspension. So it moves everything forward. It's a more advanced system. Uh, there's a number of reasons why it's up like that that um, but that's what they use on the higher end bike. So you have a little bit better backlink suspension which keeps it away from the heat, which can help give you consistent performance. And again, it centralizes that mass, which is why when I sat on this bike, although it does feel heavier and it is heavier, it doesn't feel that much heavier because things like these components that are heavy or down low, the suspension, the way it works is forward and uh, in the center of the gravity of the bike.
So a couple different things. I don't know if you can see, let's see if I can see there the rear uh, pegs right there as well. Yeah, you can see them. Rear pegs are also rubber padded here. Uh, indigent the front pegs on the 400, no rubber padding on either of the uh, uh pegs front or rear. One of the styling details I really like about the 650 is because there's no exhaust here, this swing arm is kind of a nice stylized piece and this whole look to me looks really sporty When you throw a muffler up there, it kind of hides this clean look And I just really, really like the way that kind of plays out on this bike here. Again, big brakes that are showing the abs in there as well. So just kind of cool the way it shows your tire off and shows everything else.
Uh, and it is a slipper and a cis clutch, which means it's nice and light. But let's show you the differences on the six 50. Now over on the six 50. Now again all the same controls here flash to pass high beams, uh, low beams, you've got your signal lights right there, your horn down low, same thing right there. But you do add the hazard lights or the four-way flashers depending on what you want to call it. And you have an adjustment here which is a five positioned reach adjustment for your clutch lever and the same thing on the op side for your brake lever. So the ninja 400 has no adjustments on your levers. This one does have a reach adjustment on both the clutch and on the brake lever. And that is an advantage again of moving to this bike. It does give you some uh, reach.
While they do feel a little bit different, either one is gonna be good and again this one has very controllable power in a 650 and it might also still be good for a beginner depending on what you want to do. This bike, to me the 650 size point is a perfect road going sporty bike. And then the difference with this bike is it's not just the Z 400 or sorry the Z650 or Z650 if here in the states that is an option when you move to this engine. You can also look at things like the versus 650, which is a bike that I used to own that's got all the sport riding capabilities that most people will need. Usually the bike is gonna have a far more capability than the rider. Uh, if you are considering this because it has a better passenger seat and a passenger seat matters to you, the verses 650 is gonna be an option for you.
This one is again, a little bit more nimble than that bike, a little bit more sporty in nature, but it does offer a sporty ride while still still giving you a little bit better passenger capacity. And you can stack on the side bags. You also have the option for sporty uh, vehicles in this class for the Z650 and the Z650RS. That RS is that retro sport. Look, I've got videos on this channel of that. So you can have that sort of retro styling semis sporty bike with the same engine, same speed and gives you options. And if you wanted a cruiser with this engine, this the, um, there's a sport cruiser in the Kawasaki lineup, which is the Vulcan s that S matters. Vulcan s being that sort of sportier cruiser. So once you move up to this size of bike, if you're gonna be in that insurance class anyways, you do have more options in this size.
But between these two bikes, that is probably the real standout in its class. Whereas this one is a little bit more mid-pack does everything, but it's designed to sort of do everything well. That lightweight flick ability, that class leader for something you can take to the track when you move to this one. This is probably the better overall country road sport bike for long term for a lot of people. But both are very, very good. So let me know when the comments below which one you like and for what reason. Obviously this one has a lot of fans, we'll talk about, uh, that, but I think this bike is a little bit underrated in its class as well. So let's talk about that one as well. Let me know when the comments, and again, this video exists because you guys commented below on the previous video and if you subscribe you'll be able to catch more videos on these bikes.